The Company behind the Bruce Willis movie “Once Upon a Time in Venice” is Suing Internet Users. Free Consultation by Antonelli Law Defense
The company behind the Bruce Willis movie “Once Upon a Time in Venice”, Venice PI, LLC, is suing internet users for allegedly downloading or “streaming” its movie for free. According to the Venice PI LLC lawsuit this amounts to copyright infringement and they allege they can prove it pursuant to the US Copyright Act. If you live in New York or North Carolina and are one of those targeted, you can expect to see a copy of a Venice PI LLC subpoena in your mailbox soon from your Internet Service company.
Right now, New York subscribers of Optimum Online, Time Warner Cable, and Verizon Fios; North Carolina subscribers of CenturyLink; and Indiana subscribers of Comcast Cable are being targeted.
Set up a free consultation to discuss the specifics of your case, or keep reading below for more information on what you can expect from your case with Venice Pi LLC.
Antonelli Law represents people targeted in ISP subpoenas and movie download lawsuits nationwide. In fact, over the past 6 years we have represented nearly 2,000 clients from lawsuits filed by more than 50 different movie companies from Hawaii to New York who were targeted in these types of cases. Our experience has allowed us to develop a high level of proficiency, allowing us to defend people with fair legal fees that most people can afford – either by settling out of court or through vigorous lawsuit defense.
The Venice PI LLC lawsuit is one of many “free movie” download cases we see, which are sometimes called “copyright troll” lawsuits or BitTorrent lawsuits. BitTorrent is a common software people use to illegally obtain movies online. Our experience representing so many people and understanding the technology behind these lawsuits allowed us to write a legal article explaining these lawsuits to other lawyers. It was published by a prominent state bar Intellectual Property Section.
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If you want to talk for free with Antonelli Law right away to discuss a Venice PI LLC lawsuit, use our contact form or call us at 312-201-8310 nationwide. We’re the nation’s most experienced BT copyright defense firm. Or scroll down to continue learning more about these lawsuits.
The Venice PI LLC Lawsuits Are the Same as Many Other Movie Download Lawsuits – And Antonelli Law Knows How to Protect You
Overall, these Venice PI LLC lawsuits are the same as similar lawsuits filed by other movie companies. They all have the same thing in common: The internet user’s IP address associated with their internet account was observed participating in a download of the movie company’s movie. There are defenses to these claims.
Too often, the internet accountholder simply did not do it. The IP address could have been “spoofed”, meaning some other computer somewhere in the world pretended to be the IP address associated with an American’s internet account. Its like having a fake driver’s license with your license number on it. Except their computer is pretending to be using your internet account with your internet IP address.
Other times, it could have been a family member, someone stealing your wi-fi signal from your home, or for some other reason that has nothing to do with the copyright infringement alleged. And yes, sometimes the IP address observation is part of an accurate description of the internet account holder illegally downloading the movie. See below for important information about these cases written recently by a law professor, Loyola Law Professor Matthew Sag.
Does Venice PI LLC Have Enough Data to Prove Its Claims?
In many free movie lawsuits, the movie company alleges that its agents obtained data from the alleged IP address of the defendant in what is called a BitTorrent “swarm” – which is one way people download large files.
In one Venice PI LLC Complaint filed in New York, for example, we were not able to find ANY specific allegation as to what type of evidence plaintiff had, or the amount of the evidence, to support its claims. In our opinion, the lawsuit complaint seems quite bare in light of modern federal court pleading standards. Take a look at the lawsuit yourself: 17-cv-04904-ALC Venice PI LLC Lawsuit Complaint.
Also, in the Venice PI LLC motion to the NY court to allow it to subpoena the ISPs for the internet subscriber’s identities, it appears to speciously assert the following to make the defendants in that single lawsuit appear more sinister than they likely are :
” the IP addresses associated with the Doe Defendants in this case were not only observed repeatedly distributing the Subject Motion Picture using BitTorrent, but also confirmed as associated collectively with the distribution of over ten-thousand (10,000) other copyrighted works”
I am willing to bet that what this really means is that the Defendants, even assuming they really did participate in downloading the movie (which may not in fact be true), happened to be in file-sharing swarms with others not named in this lawsuit, and those others were seen collectively to have shared over 10,000 copyrighted works (like movies). This is like saying that the two other drivers of cars that hit your car shared the same highway where 10,000 cars drive daily. It doesn’t mean very much.
Is this just smoke and mirrors to obscure the fact that they actually have little actual evidence at all? Only litigation defense may provide the answer: Venice PI LLC Motion for ISP discovery 17-cv-04904-ALC Venice PI LLC Lawsuit
Antonelli Law’s Experience & Local Counsel Provides Competent & Affordable Legal Representation
We have defended our clients against over 50 different movie companies across the country. In the process, we have learned a great deal that benefits our current and new clients. Because we are seasoned attorneys that have dealt with “free movie download” copyright lawsuits across the country filed by so many movie companies, Antonelli Law has developed a series of methods to deal effectively and efficiently with these lawsuits no matter where in the country our client’s lawsuit was filed. The Venice PI LLC subpoena and lawsuit is no exception.
In the many states where we have retained local counsel, our local counsel (see below for a non-exhaustive list) can immediately appear in court should there be an emergency. Few if any other law firms providing BitTorrent Copyright Defense have any local counsel at all.
Every movie download case involves federal law. And federal courts allow lawyers to electronically file their paperwork through the court’s official website. This key innovation means we can effectively represent clients in district courts in every state of the country. Federal practice, especially in these kinds of cases, rarely require us to appear in court. When we do need to appear, we will be there. The days of having a law clerk walk printed legal briefs over to the courthouse and file them with the court clerk are long gone.
More Information – And Free Explanations
If you are reading this article because you received a letter from your ISP internet company about a Venice PI LLC subpoena, or you have been served a summons, some of the following information will apply to you and some will not. If you have any questions call us for free at 312-201-8310. We excel at explaining the legal process and technology to people who aren’t lawyers or computer programmers!
Have you received a letter from the movie company’s lawyers?
If you received a letter from the movie company’s lawyers about the Cook Productions, Inc. lawsuit? If so, you may have questions regarding your legal options about defending yourself, settlement, and something called “Waiver of Service of Summons“.
Caution – Don’t Sign a Waiver of Service of Summons Form Before Speaking with an Attorney
As defense attorneys, we are concerned that people receiving a Waiver of Service of Summons form in the mail from the movie company’s lawyer will lead to an unfair default or consent judgment against them. Please speak with an attorney experienced in movie download federal copyright lawsuits.
Call us for a free consultation at 312-201-8310. or use the contact form if you initially wish to use email.
What Are These Lawsuits About?
Venice PI LLC accuses defendants of copyright infringement by using software such as BitTorrent and the internet to obtain the film “London Has Fallen ” without paying the appropriate license fee.
Critics of these lawsuits say its about the movie company generating more revenue. The movie company says it is filing these lawsuits to stop piracy of its intellectual property.
What Are Movie Downloading Cases in General About? What Are “Copyright Troll” Lawsuits?
If you want to read more, consider reading the article I wrote about “copyright troll” litigation which was published by the Illinois State Bar Association’s Intellectual Property Section:
Can Antonelli Law Help Me?
Copyright infringement lawsuits are based in federal law, so we provide affordable, experienced legal help anywhere in the United States. We’re the nation’s most experienced BT copyright defense firm, helping nearly 2,000 people across the country accused of downloading movies over the internet in these types of lawsuits. Antonelli Law will help you decide what to do about VENICE PI LLC lawsuit letters, subpoenas, and summons.
We Will Give You an Individualized, No Pressure, Professional Consultation – For Free.
- Learn about what the notice means.
- Ask every question that concerns you.
- Learn the facts and decide if you want to settle the lawsuit anonymously, wait to see if nothing happens, or plan to fight back.
- File a motion to quash? We’ll help you to decide.
- Have us negotiate a settlement for you, including a proper settlement agreement that is in your interest, and a dismissal order entered by the federal court to protect you and which you keep for your records.
What Can Antonelli Law Do For Me?
Antonelli Law will help you decide what to do about the VENICE PI LLC letters, subpoenas, and summons. We have helped many people accused of downloading movies over the internet in these types of lawsuits.
Remember, don’t panic. Learn the facts and your legal options by speaking for free to an Antonelli Law attorney confidentially nationwide at 312-201-8310 or use the contact form.
Our clients say Antonelli Law is very good at:
- Reducing your anxiety about the problem
- Giving clear information to help you decide what to do
- Responsive and accessible via phone and email
- Tenacious and effective lawyers in lawsuit litigation
We understand the shock you may be feeling from receiving a notice of this action, and have the experience to help you deal with this in the best way possible for you: anonymous settlement, or prepare to fight back.
Can I File a Motion to Quash the ISP Subpoena from Venice PI LLC?
Yes, as long as it is not after the deadline to do so as stated in your notice from your internet service provider. If the deadline has not passed we will need to discuss with you the relative strengths and weaknesses of doing so.
Call us today for a free consultation at 312-201-8310 nationwide or use the contact form. Don’t panic. Learn the facts and speak for free, confidentially, with our experienced attorneys.
How Much Data is Enough for a Legally Sufficient Lawsuit Complaint?
In some cases, these lawsuits can be challenged because the Plaintiff must show:
- It has ownership of a valid copyright and
- The defendant violated the copyright owner’s exclusive rights under the Copyright Act.
In one case Antonelli Law defended (a different movie than the one here), we contended that Plaintiff did not allege sufficient evidence to show that any of its copyrighted materials were violated. The movie company submitted a declaration of its agent (not the same as the company in this article) stating that “multiple bits were conveyed over [the] connection.” However, we argued, multiple “bits” of data do not translate to a viewable image close enough to approximate being substantially similar to the movie company’s copyrighted work.
As Law Professor Matthew Sag states in his recent article “Defense Against the Dark Arts of Copyright Trolling”:
“the isolated “bits” of the movie that [Plaintiff] supposedly received from the defendant’s IP address do not meet the standard for copyright infringement. In the cases that we have studied, the plaintiffs have offered declarations that defendant’s IP address was observed transmitting data with a certain hash value. That hash value, it is alleged, is the same as the hash value of a piece that the witness combined with other pieces to create a file identical to the copyright owner’s work… note that these declarations say nothing about the size or contents of the portions of the work actually downloaded from the defendant’s IP address. In essence, the plaintiff can only state truthfully that its software observed the defendant’s IP address transmitting a fraction of the work….”There is nothing in either declaration that would allow the court to conclude that the “bits” and “pieces” captured by [plaintiff’s experts’] technology as allegedly distributed from Doe’s IP address meet the standard of originality justifying a finding that they are protectable elements of the works.
So How Much Data Did VENICE PI, LLC Allegedly Observe From Defendants?
In many free movie lawsuits, the movie company alleges that its agents obtained data from the alleged IP address of the defendant in what is called a BitTorrent “swarm” – which is one way people download large files. But many critics question whether there is enough real evidence to support the claims. As we noted above in this article, we looked but we did not find much.
Are these allegations in the Venice PI LLC lawsuit enough to withstand a motion to dismiss the Complaint under federal rule 12(b)(6)? A defendant will need to ask the judge to make that determination. It may cost more to do this than to settle, but this could be the right strategy for some who are targeted in VENICE PI, LLC lawsuits.
Its Worth Repeating: Don’t Sign a Waiver of Service of Summons Form Before Speaking with an Attorney
As defense attorneys, we are concerned that people who receive a Waiver of Service of Summons form in the mail from the movie company’s lawyer will lead to an unfair default judgment against them. Please speak with an attorney experienced in movie download federal copyright lawsuits before you sign a Waiver of Service of Summons form.
Like other BitTorrent peer-to-peer file-sharing cases, VENICE PI LLC accuses defendants of copyright infringement by using software and the internet to obtain the film “London Has Fallen” without paying the appropriate license fee. There will likely be more lawsuits filed by Venice PI LLC.
If your internet address (“IP address”) is involved, your first notice of the lawsuit will probably be a letter from COX Communications internet and a copy of a subpoena from VENICE PI LLC Scroll down for additional information about these lawsuits.
Received a Subpoena from Your Internet Company? The best thing to do is to talk with an experienced lawyer.
Antonelli Law has helped nearly 2,000 clients targeted in internet movie download lawsuits across the country, from Hawaii to New York and many states in between. We can do this because the lawsuits are in federal court, where all filings are done electronically. See our local counsel attorney information below.
Attorneys: Don’t risk malpractice in a copyright lawsuit if you don’t do this type of work regularly – the loser pays statutory and attorneys fees. We accept attorney referrals and are very experienced in this specialized litigation.
What Are the Steps in a VENICE PI LLC Lawsuit?
Each lawsuit is filed in federal court and requests permission to find out the real names of internet users associated with IP addresses suspected of being part of the movie downloading. This is done by sending a subpoena to the internet company (ISP). Most people find out they are involved in the lawsuit when they receive a letter from their internet company (ISP) such as Comcast, COX, Comcast, or Verizon informing them of the copyright infringement allegations. A copy of a VENICE PI LLC subpoena will probably be enclosed.
The VENICE PI LLC Subpoena – You Can File a Motion to Quash the Subpoena
If you are the account holder for an internet service provider (ISP), your name is linked to an IP address. If you receive an ISP letter or email informing you a subpoena was received to reveal your identity for a copyright infringement lawsuit. You have the right to file something called a motion to quash the subpoena, although the risks and benefits of filing one should be discussed with a qualified attorney.
Antonelli Law’s Local Counsel – Nationwide Defense Practice
Antonelli Law defense attorneys and local counsel are admitted to the district courts wherever VENICE PI LLC lawsuits are filed from coast to coast. We are able to represent you in your federal case without being more expensive or more difficult to hire than hiring a local law firm in part because federal courts require attorneys to file their papers electronically, and often conduct hearings by telephone. This makes frequent trips to the courthouse unnecessary.
We can defend you and also help protect your anonymity in a Venice PI LLC lawsuit if circumstances allow.
Who Are Our Local Counsel?
NEW YORK – Leslie Farber
Byron L. Ames Jurisdictions: Nevada & Utah
Mark Del Bianco Jurisdictions: Maryland, Washington DC
Peter Glazer Jurisdiction: Virginia
Tristan C. Robinson Jurisdiction: Texas
Southern District of Texas
Jeffrey Antonelli Jurisdictions: Illinois, Indiana, Colorado, Michigan, Wisconsin, and others through pro hac vice
Melissa Brabender: Illinois and Nationwide through pro hac vice admission
Antonelli Law is the most experienced BT copyright defense firm in the country and represents clients nationwide – no more expensively than competent lawyers in your area.
Each lawsuit is filed in federal court and requests permission to find out the real names of internet users associated with IP addresses suspected of being part of the movie downloading. This is done by sending a subpoena to the internet company (ISP). Most people find out they are involved in the lawsuit when they receive a letter from their internet company (ISP) such as Comcast, COX, Comcast, or Verizon informing them of the copyright infringement allegations. A copy of a VENICE PI LLC Subpoena will probably be enclosed.
If you are the account holder for an internet service provider (ISP), your name is linked to an IP address. If you receive a Comcast, COX, CenturyLink or similar letter informing you a subpoena was received to reveal your identity call Antonelli Law nationwide at 312-201-8310 or use the contact form to learn your legal options including settling anonymously, filing a motion to quash or vacate the subpoena, or to prepare to fight the lawsuit.
Venice PI LLC subpoenas and summons can be scary or inconvenient, but we can help you manage the risk and the hassle.
Antonelli Law, a national BT Copyright Defense Group has defended nearly 2,000 people accused of online copyright infringement including many accused by Cook Productions, Inc.
List of VENICE PI LLC Cases Filed by State
District of New York
Venice PI, LLC v. Does 1-15 1:17-cv-04904
District of North Carolina
Venice PI, LLC v. Does 1-18 1:17-cv-00610
Venice PI, LLC v. Does 1-11 1:17-cv-00611
Venice PI LLC v. Does 1-15 4:17-cv-00089
Venice PI, LLC v. Does 1-10 1:17-cv-00170
District of Indiana
Venice PI, LLC v. Doe 1 et al 2:17-cv-00284
Venice PI, LLC v. Doe 1 et al 2:17-cv-00285
Venice PI, LLC v. Doe 1 et al 1:17-cv-02274